U214 choosen in submarine tender

Orko_8, you do realise these people live in Australia?

Dumbest naval projects Neptune II?

Yes, the Dumbest Tank programs was already taken!

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Orko_8, you do realise these people live in Australia?

This explains a lot

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Dumbest naval projects Neptune II?

Yes, the Dumbest Tank programs was already taken!

Guess which one is still underway and which one was cancelled 4 years ago.

No thanks I have guessed enough for one day. greekturkish/sneaky.gif

QUOTE (orko_8 @ July 28, 2008 05:15 pm)

I sincerely hope that you do not handle defence acquisition programs as "X buys and Y follows". That's more than childish and can lead one ask: "hey it was Turkey to first select F-16 and then Greece followed". A very low-speed-high-drag pissing con-*test*-('") argument that's not expected from forumers of a country with dozens of defence related magazines and periodicals, i.e world expects you more objective and informed in these matters and you should be able to provide arguments, sound ones.

If you pay attention, which seems not the case, argument as Greece being the first customer of Type 214 has absolutely NO relevance with Greece's unbelieveable payment of 80% of the cost IN ADVANCE without getting even the first system delivered. This is a scandal by any means; not to mention probably one of the world's dumbest naval project, which is Neptune II.

By the way, dear Zeus; unfortunately you seem to be trapped in some kind of infinite loop: No one denied the South Korean connection in K-9 / Firtina project. And n fact, I wrote; the fire control system and comms systems of the sph are Turkish made and Turkey has all the license rights. Noone said "Ne they are not Korean, they are fully 100% Turkish". Yet you still have the face to say "lol, call you're howitzers what you want, they are still Korean. " with a pathetic "lol". Very disappointing. And it seems since you are out of arguments, you stil manage to say "sticking to same old crap" which you even cannot give answer to my previous explanations.

And I thought you guys have at least some bit of idea of what you are talking about with the support of all those huge number of defence publications in your countries. It's more than surprising to see that not one of you is able to conduct a discussion in a civilised, argument-based way; only using troll feeding mechanisms.

Very sad indeed.

i have paid plenty of attention matey, the sub program has few issues, their are other factors in this program that have delayed it...

Neptune 2 program will be completed and they will perform admirably....why is it a dumb project ? inform us, you seem to be have all the answers...

how smart is it that turkey will in next few years update its oldest T-209's which should really be retiring soon?

mate it still doesnt change the fact that most turks looked at the Greek U 214 project problems with glee....then go and crow when turkey buys the same sub....

do your admirals have a crystal ball that tells them all will be ok? or like the Greeks they know its a good sub and any minor teething problems will be sorted....whether we paid 80% or 40% whats the issue? the sub will be delivered soon.... greekturkish/tiphat.gif