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LOS MAGANDOS- 07-21-2008
QUOTE (optimaton @ July 20, 2008 01:04 pm)
Here ya go you cunt two more mosques in Rhodes

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Aussiewog Cuntrag calling me a Cunt greekturkish/bluebiggrin.gif

Nice greekturkish/laugh.gif

Wow 2 WHOLE MOSQUES Opti !!! Im blown away with your tolerance of Turkish Culture !!

Zeus- 07-21-2008
QUOTE (katastrof @ July 21, 2008 07:51 am)


Emre & Zeus, it seems this issue had been discussed to death here. Look at the following thread & the genetic studies presented there:
http://greekturkish.18.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=5449

As for the "we were here first" kind of arguments, I don't even care reply to them anymore. It's up there with "Greeks created the world". Ignore.

Finally, for the church thing, I'm not sure one can even count the number of churches in Turkey that are kept in excellent condition. But, too many have been demolished/harassed as well (esp. the 6-7 Sept. events of 1955); Turkey's record in this matter is pretty awful. So, a picture-war is pretty unnecessary, IMHO.

I wont bother replying to that idiot emre..not worth the five seconds typing a reply to the fuck wit.

Anyway..

I wasn't trying to argue "we(greeks) were here first".
Actually glad you're posting here, perhaps this forum can start to get back to normal, after cunts like LosM have steered us all in the wrong direction. The last thing we need is another LosM in the form of Emre.

turkkan- 07-21-2008
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Finally, for the church thing, I'm not sure one can even count the number of churches in Turkey that are kept in excellent condition. But, too many have been demolished/harassed as well (esp. the 6-7 Sept. events of 1955); Turkey's record in this matter is pretty awful. So, a picture-war is pretty unnecessary, IMHO.


If we are discussing turkey, given the vast christian population pre world war 1, how exactly do you expect us to keep all these abandoned churches in good order and why exactly should we when 99% of the country is not christian? Yes the famous one obviously have some historic value but most scattered around anatolia dont. Second, even if we were to accept the argument that they should all have been kept in good condition, where exactly will a state like turkey which had dire economic problems find the money from? The way you present this issue is as if its only churches that have been left derilict and not most historic structures be they muslim or christian. In my opinion there is seriously far more important issues for turkey to spend its budget on such as her healthcare system or energy needs.

katastrof- 07-21-2008
QUOTE (turkkan @ July 21, 2008 11:45 am)

If we are discussing turkey, given the vast christian population pre world war 1, how exactly do you expect us to keep all these abandoned churches in good order and why exactly should we when 99% of the country is not christian? Yes the famous one obviously have some historic value but most scattered around anatolia dont. Second, even if we were to accept the argument that they should all have been kept in good condition, where exactly will a state like turkey which had dire economic problems find the money from? The way you present this issue is as if its only churches that have been left derilict and not most historic structures be they muslim or christian.  In my opinion there is seriously far more important issues for turkey to spend its budget on such as her healthcare system or energy needs.

If we were only talking about an abandoned church in a small village of Mugla with 200 residents & no Christians left, you would be right.

The important things are (1) those of historical value are well-preserved, (2) remaining Christians have their churches intact & can freely use them. Plus, it isn't too expensive to keep them in good condition, it can even be handled locally. Think about the efforts Ministry of Culture expanded to restore the Mostar Bridge.

The events like that of Sept. 1955 should be acknowledged as well. I don't think any of the looters, then, cared about the 2 points above. So yes, Turkey's record with its churches and its Christian minority is bad. The road to improving it starts with acknowledging the situation, thus I don't like to produce excuses. Many of us still keep producing excuses for Madimak, instead of just saying "damn this thing, damn those who did it!".

Turkey has far more important problems, yes. The core of the various minority problems, though, are not financial.

Emre- 07-21-2008
QUOTE (Zeus @ July 21, 2008 08:43 pm)
I wont bother replying to that idiot emre..not worth the five seconds typing a reply to the fuck wit.

Anyway..

I wasn't trying to argue "we(greeks) were here first".

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This is too good, the whining grade A tosser is making new friends.

Uhm... katastrof, could you pass this message to Zooboy please...?

Zooboy, moite, I knows your not talking to me right now becoz I hurted you’re feelingz, but what did you mean by : “It would have been different if in Asia Minor etc the Turks were the native people of several millennia and had established civilisations and empires(which is what the Greeks did), but the Turks didn't. They came along AFTER, and destroyed things and killed people.”


QUOTE (Zeus @ July 21, 2008 08:43 pm)
Actually glad you're posting here, perhaps this forum can start to get back to normal, after cunts like LosM have steered us all in the wrong direction. The last thing we need is another LosM in the form of Emre.

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katastrof- 07-21-2008
QUOTE (Emre @ July 21, 2008 03:43 pm)
Uhm... katastrof, could you pass this message to Zooboy please...?

What am I, the arbitrator now greekturkish/laugh.gif

Hadee opusun, barisin, life is too short for this stuff.

"Aglama degmez hayaaaaaaatt, bu goooz yaslariiinaaaaaaaa"

Duke-Nukem- 07-21-2008
QUOTE (LOS MAGANDOS @ July 21, 2008 10:03 am)

and whats wrong with greekmurderers.net ??? the truth is the truth no matter where its published.  you attacked the source and none of the facts i pointed out. END OF  greekturkish/tiphat.gif

LOLOL I always suspected ur contri 2 this thread was taking some fun with a piss content.

u little troll...user posted image

Zeus- 07-21-2008
QUOTE (katastrof @ July 21, 2008 08:16 pm)
What am I, the arbitrator now greekturkish/laugh.gif

Hadee opusun, barisin, life is too short for this stuff.

"Aglama degmez hayaaaaaaatt, bu goooz yaslariiinaaaaaaaa"

Don't worry about him too much, hopefully he will get bored of acting like a dumb cunt and editing pictures and fuck off soon.

Emre- 07-21-2008
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Not before I see the back of your hairy neck zooboy...

Hadi now... Kışt, kışt...


Zeus- 07-22-2008
QUOTE (Emre)
Hadi now... Kışt, kışt...


Sorry I don't communicate in grunts and moans like a neanderthal

Emre- 07-22-2008
QUOTE (Zeus @ July 22, 2008 07:11 pm)
Sorry I don't communicate, I just whine and moan like a bitch

You are absolutely correct for a change.

Duke-Nukem- 07-22-2008
QUOTE (Emre @ July 22, 2008 02:49 pm)
You are absolutely correct for a change.

greekturkish/laugh.gif ur the 2nd cuntboy 2 edit posts by another forumer.

the first was Trojan , better known as Jane

u came second babeaaa....even in this respect ur a failure greekturkish/bowrofl.gif greekturkish/bustingup.gif

Emre- 07-22-2008
QUOTE (Duke-Nukem @ July 23, 2008 06:32 am)
greekturkish/laugh.gif ur  the 2nd cuntboy 2 edit posts by another forumer.

the first was Trojan , better known as Jane

u came second babeaaa....even in this respect ur a failure greekturkish/bowrofl.gif  greekturkish/bustingup.gif

Oh, that is just so against the forum etiquette isn't it...?

What are you gonna do, start a crusade against me as well...? Fark, I am worried now.

BTW, you are acting like a dumb cunt and editing pictures and stuff, but you came second even in that. greekturkish/bowrofl.gif greekturkish/hang.gif greekturkish/loser.gif greekturkish/Victory.gif greekturkish/sex.gif greekturkish/emot-emo.gif greekturkish/laugh.gif greekturkish/wink kiss.gif greekturkish/blissysmile.gif greekturkish/pray.gif

katastrof- 07-22-2008
How come neither of you can stop this shit? If you are joking, then it stops being funny after a while, & if you are serious, it must get very boring.

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Emre- 07-23-2008
QUOTE (katastrof @ July 23, 2008 02:31 pm)
How come neither of you can stop this shit? If you are joking, then it stops being funny after a while, & if you are serious, it must get very boring.

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You are right mate, these two clowns dukey and zooboy are always at it.

Neither of them can stop it. greekturkish/shakehead.gif

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