Turkish Counter-attack Leaves 17 Dead

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Bodies of two missing Turkish soldiers found

The Turkish army said the bodies of two soldiers, missing since PKK's attack on Friday, were found as the operations in the region continue. (UPDATED)

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The bodies of the two soldiers who had been reported missing were found by the Turkish Armed Forces, the army said in a statement posted in its website on Monday. The statement brought the number of soldiers killed in the attack to 17.

The PKK had attacked to an army post in the southeastern Turkey, killing 15 soldiers and injuring 20 others. Two soldiers were reported missing after the attack. The army said that 23 terrorists were killed in the clashes after the attack.

The terror organization on Monday has said it had the bodies of the missing soldiers, while a foreign news agency reported PKK held the soldiers but did not deny or confirm whether they are alive or not.

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/home/10...id=244&sz=62500

this raises the dead from the turkish side to the 17.

still, we have to see official confirmation by the Kurdish side how many casualties they had!

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Turkish soldier killed in PKK clash in southeastern Turkey

A Turkish soldier was killed in clash with outlawed PKK separatists in southeastern Turkey, Dogan News Agency reported early Wednesday.

A Turkish soldier was killed in clash with outlawed PKK separatists in the Dicle district of the southeastern province of Diyarbakir, Dogan News Agency reported early Wednesday.

The PKK is listed as a terrorist group by much of the international community including the United States and the EU.

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domesti...id=244&sz=82913

The deathtoll rising for the sons of Turkiye!

Bring another coffin!

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Four killed in attack on police bus in Turkey

DIYARBAKIR, Turkey (Reuters) - Three police trainees and a civilian were killed and 22 other people were wounded in an attack on a police bus in southeast Turkey on Wednesday, police said.

Unidentified assailants armed with guns and explosives attacked the vehicle on a busy street on the outskirts of the city of Diyarbakir. At least 11 of the wounded were trainee police officers and the others were civilians, police said.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the daylight attack. Kurdish separatist guerrillas frequently target Turkey's armed forces and police in the mainly Kurdish southeast.

The attack came shortly before parliament in Ankara was scheduled to approve a government request to extend a mandate to launch military operations against Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) rebels based in northern Iraq.

Television images showed bullet holes in the windows of the bus that was carrying the students. Attacks are rare in Diyarbakir, the largest city in the Kurdish southeast, where Turkish troops have a strong presence.

Anatolian state news agency said an unexploded grenade was found near the site.

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan and the military have pledged to step up a campaign to crush the separatist PKK, including those based across the border in Iraq.

The authorities have come under increased pressure after a cross-border attack killed 17 soldiers on Friday, the deadliest against the Turkish military in a year. The outcome of the vote had been widely expected.

Turkey blames the PKK, considered a terrorist organization by the United States and the European Union, for the deaths of more than 40,000 people since it launched its armed campaign for an ethnic Kurdish homeland in southeast Turkey in 1984.

(Writing by Ibon Villelabeitia in Ankara; Editing by Richard Balmforth)

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/i...E4977NZ20081008

numbers for the above atteck increased: 5 dead and 19 amputated & injured

http://en.rian.ru/world/20081008/117596956.html

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Well, it looks like someone was watching porn!

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Flaws in security blamed for Aktütün attack

As more details unfold about Friday's Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) attack on a border outpost that left 17 dead, suspicions have been growing vis-à-vis the role security flaws played in the assault's success.

Observers note that the Aktütün attack has much in common with an attack in the Dağlıca region last year in which 12 soldiers were killed and argue that lessons which should have been learned in Dağlıca had not.

In both raids, there is serious evidence suggesting that military commands had intelligence about the plans of the terrorists to attack. The investigation into the Dağlıca attack that took place in October 2007 revealed that the General Staff had been tipped off about the plan nine days ahead of the assault. Similar allegations have been raised in the Aktütün raid, as the intelligence units of three institutions -- the police, the national intelligence agency and the gendarmerie -- informed military units of the possibility of an attack on Aktütün 10 days ahead of the incident. However, no precautions were taken despite the tip-offs, just like the attack on the Dağlıca battalion.

The Dağlıca investigation found that the terrorists had taken an entire week to enter Turkish territory in small groups on mules. This is confirmed by records of wireless communications between officers and privates, as well as their -*test*-('")imony after the attack. A similar situation, sources say, goes for the Aktütün raid. Many say a terrorist group of nearly 350 people started infiltrating days ahead, carrying guns on mules. Moreover, the presence of a 150-person group at the border had been reported to higher ranking officials one day ahead of the attack.

The Aktütün attack, like Dağlıca before it, poses some serious questions including how and why the authorized units were slow to act and take the necessary precautions to prevent the attack. Experts say a press ban on Dağlıca-related news imposed by a military court following that attack restricted discussion on security flaws and violations at the time, which eventually prevented those responsible for protecting Aktütün from learning the necessary lessons that should have been learnt then.

08 October 2008, Wednesday
YAHYA ÖYLEK VAN

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar...tay&link=155296

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You cunts are lowest of low & theres no surprise there. You get to flame under the radar by insulting and showing lac of respect the dead but that's just your true cowardice nature unveiling.

Keep masturbating like a 16yr old teen since your the kind who would stab your best friend for the sake of writing an epigram on his tombstone. Hypnotized as a child and couldn't be woken.

" Foul spoken coward, that thund'rest with thy tongue, and with thy weapon nothing dares perform. "

Scene of the act

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Hainler yakalandı
9 Ekim 2008
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Hainler yakalandı
Diyarbakır'da polis servis aracına saldırıyı yapan 4 teröristten 3'ü yakalandı.

HAİN SALDIRIDAN FOTOĞRAFLAR

Diyarbakır Emniyet Müdürlüğü ekiplerinin operasyonlarında, Ali Gaffar Okkan Polis Meslek Yüksekokulu personelinin içerisinde bulunduğu servis otobüsüne Aziziye Mahallesi'nden geçişi sırasında bombalı ve silahlı saldırı yaparak 5 kişiyi şehit eden ve 18 kişiyi yaralayan 4 teröristten 3'ü yakalandı. Yakalanan teröristlerin Emniyet Müdürlüğü Terörle Mücadele Şubesi'nde sorguları sürdürülüyor.

PLANLAYICI ARANIYOR

Polis, sürdürdüğü geniş çaplı operasyonlarda saldırıyı planlayıcısı olduğu bildirilen ve terör örgütünün Irak'ın kuzeyindeki kamplarından geldiği belirtilen Mehmet Şah Yildeniz'i yakalamaya çalışıyor.

10 yıl önce terör örgütüne katıldığı belirtilen Mehmet Şah Yildeniz'in saldırıyı planlayan kişi olduğu ve dün beraberinde 3 teröristle gelerek saldırıyı yaptıkları öğrenildi. Teröristlerden ikisinin polis servis aracına el bombası attığı, diğer 2 kişinin ise kalaşnikof marka uzun namlulu tüfekle ateş ettiği belirtildi.

Saldırıdan sonra uzun namlulu silahlarını atarak kaçan teröristlerin kent merkezinde yakalandığı kaydedildi.

Terörist Yildeniz'in saldırıdan 3 gün önce olay yerine gelerek keşif yaptığı ve saldırıyı aracın kent merkezine girişi sırasında otobüsün yokuş çıkarken süratinin en aza düştüğü noktada gerçekleştirmeyi kararlaştırdığı belirtildi.

Polis aracına dün yapılan saldırıda Ahmet Kılıçarslan, Adem Seyfioğlu, Ramazan Tavşancı, Duran Karaboğaş ve Vedat Ulu şehit olmuş, 18 kişi yaralanmıştı.

3 of the 4 who carried out the assault on the diyarbakir bus yesterday were arrested.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/1...s.ap/index.html

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) -- Turkish warplanes and artillery bombed and killed a large group of Kurdish rebels as they tried to cross the rugged mountains into Turkey from northern Iraq, the military said Friday.

Turkish surveillance teams spotted the rebel group and called in the attack late Thursday that killed most of the group's members along the border, said military spokesman Gen. Metin Gurak.

But rebel group the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, said its fighters had not tried to cross the border, did not have a presence in the area and had not suffered any casualties.

"There are no casualties among PKK members who did not try to cross the borders because our operations are conducted by members based inside Turkey," Ahmed Deniz, a PKK spokesman, said Friday.

Gurak, who did not give an exact location for the attack or an estimate of the numbers killed, declined to answer reporters' questions. It was not possible to independently verify the statements.

The rebels often stage hit-and-run attacks from bases in northern Iraq.

The Turkish military offensive was the la-*test*-('") in a series of attacks in response to a guerrilla heavy weapons attack last week that killed 17 soldiers. The military said it was launched from Iraqi soil.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

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PKK attacks army convoy, wounding 5 Turkish soldiers

Five Turkish soldiers were wounded in an attack by PKK militants on an army convoy in eastern Turkey on Tuesday, military sources said.

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Army helicopters later bombed PKK militants who carried out the attack in mountainous Tunceli province, the sources said.

One soldier was in critical condition, they said. Fighting continued and the army had sent more troops to the area.

Turkey's parliament on Wednesday extended for another year a mandate for the military to launch operations against PKK militants based in northern Iraq.

PKK killed 17 Turkish soldiers on a military outpost in the southeastern province of Hakkari days ago.

Agencies

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=29739

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Security flaws in Aktütün attack documented by daily

A newspaper yesterday published shocking evidence that security flaws played a large role in the deaths of 17 soldiers in an attack by the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) on a military outpost in the Southeast on Oct. 3.

Aerial infrared images of the Aktütün area in Hakkari, the province bordering northern Iraq where the military outpost was attacked, published in the Taraf daily yesterday clearly show figures approaching the area through the northern Iraqi border. Images from Oct. 3, taken from an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), show a group of individuals laying mines at around 9:35 a.m. local time, about three-and-a-half hours before the attack. The group gets larger in the following images as more and more of these individuals -- who eventually attack the outpost -- take their positions on hilltops in preparation for the attack. The UAV camera then switches to the Aktütün military outpost, where the attack occurred. The terrorist raid, which killed 17 young soldiers, was literally broadcast live on General Staff monitors. Taraf said this is concrete evidence that the security forces had been informed about every move made by the PKK terrorists.

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Taraf also claimed that the General Staff actually had intelligence about the plans for the attack one month before it occurred. On the day of the attack, live UAV images were transmitted for hours to the Electronic Systems Command of the General Staff, as well as to a monitor in the office of the deputy chief of general staff in the capital.

Taraf published internal security status reports sent to the General Staff -- including one from Sept. 29 -- that featured detailed intelligence about terrorist activity in the region. Even the names, birth places and ages of the terrorists crossing the border, as well as the number of people in various groups formed by the militants, are included in the status reports. A report wired on Oct. 2, just one day before the Aktütün attack, warns that “the PKK is engaged in extensive preparations to attack security forces outposts along the border ahead of a possible cross-border operation.” Even the name of the PKK commander -- Habat, one of the group’s female leaders -- who staged the attack was reported in the Oct. 2 document.

Gendarmerie report on attack refutes General Staff

Taraf also published excerpts from a report on the attack from the Gendarmerie Internal Security Corps Command that differed radically from statements made by Deputy Chief of General Staff Gen. Hasan Iğsız, who spoke to the press two days after the attack.

While Gen. Iğsız had said that a special team of soldiers and rangers were deployed to the area ahead of the attack, no reinforcements had arrived by the time of the attack, according to the gendarmerie report. The reinforcements Iğsız mentioned came later. Iğsız also said F-16 warplanes were sent to attack the PKK group, but the report only mentions two Cobra helicopters and includes no mention of F-16s.

Also in his statement, Iğsız had said that a nearby hill -- Bayraktepe -- had not fallen to the terrorists. But the gendarmerie reported that the hill was taken back from the terrorists only eight hours into the attack, when the militants withdrew.

Similarity to Dağlıca attack

Taraf’s report confirms initial suspicions about security flaws in the Aktütün attack, which has much in common with another attack in the Dağlıca region last year in which 12 soldiers were killed. Taraf argued that lessons that should have been learned from Dağlıca went unheeded.

In both raids, there was evidence suggesting that military commands had intelligence about the plans of the terrorists to attack. The investigation into the Dağlıca attack, which took place in October 2007, revealed that the General Staff had been tipped off about the plan nine days ahead of the assault. According to Taraf’s reports and earlier allegations raised in the Aktütün raid, the military units had been informed about the plans at least 10 days ahead of the incident.

The Dağlıca investigation found that the terrorists had taken an entire week to enter Turkish territory in small groups on mules, confirmed by records of wireless communications between officers and privates, as well as their -*test*-('")imony after the attack, which is also not dissimilar to the Aktütün raid, where both reports and images from the air show clearly that terrorist activity on the border had been reported to higher ranking officials ahead of the attack.

The Aktütün attack, like Dağlıca before it, poses serious questions about how and why the authorized units were slow to act and take the necessary precautions to prevent the attack.

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On the day of the Aktütün attack, live UAV images of terrorist activity were transmitted for hours to the Electronic Systems Command of the General Staff.

15 October 2008, Wednesday
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11 Turkish soldiers killed and 15 injured in overnight clashes

Ankara - Ten Turkish soldiers and 10 Kurdish separatists were killed Wednesday night during separate clashes in south-east Turkey, the General Staff announced on Thursday. Four soldiers were killed in the province of Kavakli district of Hakkari province when their vehicle came under fire from separatists from the Kurdish Workers' Party (PKK), the General Staff said in a short statement posted on its official website.

One soldier was also killed and 15 injured when a troop-carrying helicopter crashed on its reinforce efforts to capture the PKK militants responsible for the attack. The helicopter had suffered an mechanical fault, the statement said.

The General Staff said five PKK separatists were killed in fighting in the Derecik district of Hakkari and around Mt Cudi in Sirnak province.

The Dogan news agency also reported on Thursday that five Turkish soldiers and five PKK militants were killed Wednesday night in separate clashes in the Cukurca and Sirnak districts of Hakkari.

Ankara blames the separatist group for the deaths of more than 35,000 people since the early 1980s when the PKK began its fight for independence or autonomy for the mainly Kurdish-populated south-east of Turkey.

The PKK is considered by the United States and the European Union to be a terrorist group

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/23...ht-clashes.html