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Julian- 09-19-2008
A forty-year old homeless man almost died when he was beaten up in Brussels by a man and his father, both Muslims, because he was drinking beer during the Ramadan. Rachid, the 19-year old culprit, beat his victim Serge with an iron bar with nails.

A few days ago Serge had an appointment with a doctor in a policlinic in Blaes Street. He arrived early and, since he had to wait, Serge opened a can of beer. At that moment an elderly Muslim who lives above the policlinic came downstairs. He objected to Serge drinking a beer in public during Ramadan, the Muslim fast. Things escalated when his son Rachid came downstairs, too.

Father and son beat up Serge. They threw him out of the building on a pile of rubbish bags. Amidst the rubbish Rachid found an iron bar studded with nails. He seized the bar and smashed it in on Serge. The tramp tried to protect his face with his arms, but could not prevent the bully from hitting an artery on his legs. Blood poured from the wound.

An eye-witness called the police. Meantime a group of youths had joined in beating up Serge.

The victim was immediately taken to hospital. He had lost two liters of blood. The doctors confirm that it is a miracle that Serge survived his ordeal. The police arrested Rachid. His father tried to take his place, but that did not happen.


http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Article/Detail.as...icleID=0G20L7K6


Haven't they ever heard that "When in Rome, do as the Romans do"?

Nikephoros- 09-19-2008
What a great age to live in. Millions of muslims immigrating to Europe and supporting in the majority with their votes the leftist parties of the Continent. The leftist public opinion feels that by supporting "multiculturalism" and massive immigration that they are being progressive, which is their hobby to appear at all times as "progressives".

But what they do not want to know is that muslims(in the majority) do not accept multi-culturalism: they prefer to be a dominant community (millet hakim) whether they are a minority or not.

We can see in this forum the diaspora Turks use two-fold tactics:
1) pretend that Turkey(and Turks in general) accept multi-culturalism and other Western habits of thought
2) flame, act tough with macho bravado, make threats, act aggressive, make insults, etc.

Now the leftist Greeks of the forum, feel that the Turks who use tactic #1 are "progressive", but what is progressive about misleading people? In a way the more fanatic Turks like Nationalist-Islamist Turk are more respectable for not trying to portray their country and society as something it is not.

katastrof- 09-19-2008
QUOTE (Nikephoros @ September 19, 2008 11:35 am)
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As for the original post, it's pretty fucked up.

koukla- 09-19-2008
I was thinking the same when I was drinking my Taps Red Ale beer near my window....wondering if any1 would see me...I must admit I kinda did it on purpose.

Well Turkey is neither Europe nor Nationalist Islamist, it has a lot of grey lines. Especially big cities are multi cultural, bec you cant have 5 or 15 million in it and pretend you are the same. There are people of different political and social backgrounds, hence different styles of living. You can still see people eating day time when others fasting in Kızılay, Tunalı (centers) or Taksim and many other neighorboods of Istanbul or in Izmir (I was there first day of >Ramazan and saw a lot) or even small cities like Samsun. Or you can see people drinking at night at bars/pubs, maybe less due to Ramazan but exist. But there are also places in these cities I mentioned that close during the day, their loss...one of my fave. kebab place was close some days ago.....however they choose.....but again their loss :)


Shame on those immigrants who try to dominate the public they "try" to live in with their way of understanding life. Yes it should be when in Rome...but these people skip one big virtue Islam teaches them: respect others and no forcement in religion. Brainwashed ignorants.

artist- 09-19-2008
QUOTE (Nikephoros @ September 19, 2008 07:35 pm)
What a great age to live in. Millions of muslims immigrating to Europe and supporting in the majority with their votes the leftist parties of the Continent. The leftist public opinion feels that by supporting "multiculturalism" and massive immigration that they are being progressive, which is their hobby to appear at all times as "progressives".

But what they do not want to know is that muslims(in the majority) do not accept multi-culturalism: they prefer to be a dominant community (millet hakim) whether they are a minority or not.

We can see in this forum the diaspora Turks use two-fold tactics:
1) pretend that Turkey(and Turks in general) accept multi-culturalism and other Western habits of thought
2) flame, act tough with macho bravado, make threats, act aggressive, make insults, etc.

Now the leftist Greeks of the forum, feel that the Turks who use tactic #1 are "progressive", but what is progressive about misleading people? In a way the more fanatic Turks like Nationalist-Islamist Turk are more respectable for not trying to portray their country and society as something it is not.

You know, there are lots of morrons in every nations ... we dont choos'em
I had read an essai from Amin Maalouf, In the Name of Identity: Violence and the Need to Belong
In a short version, the human needs to be attached himself to :
1. religion
or 2. race, roots
or
3. the story of him or her family and blablah ... thats human nature...

And for the Turks who lives in EU, we are not only turks or Eu citizen ... when u grow up between 2 communities or 2cultures, u belong to the both by your way of thinking etc. but in every principles there are exceptions!!

For julian's topic:
pauvre Serge greekturkish/blank.gif poor man...he's free to do what the hell he want since he doesn't do any prejudice to some1
Belgium is full of fool like Rachid greekturkish/Yes.gif Am not racist but some marocans are realy fucked up in Belgium, they talk about islam etc like imams and the night you across them near a pakistani night shop with a bottle of j&B in the left hand and a cig in the right one, and ofcourse they swear in the same time because the chick that they dragged didnt giv'em her phone number ...

Nationalistic_Islamist_TURK- 09-20-2008
Immigrants in brussels are very dangerous people ( especilly the morrocans ). You can't see a belgian in the immigrant places of brussels, Go to rue de brabant ( prostitute zone ) 70% of the people there are morrocans 15% Turks and the rest is niggas, other nationalities ... . but you will not see 1 belgian they are scared like shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8Y3Q7uj1BQ skinheads vs morrocans ( morrocans are with lot more )

AlperNYC- 09-20-2008
QUOTE (Julian @ September 19, 2008 06:13 pm)
Rachid, the 19-year old culprit, beat his victim Serge with an iron bar with nails.




http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Article/Detail.as...icleID=0G20L7K6


Sounds Arabic to me...
So.. who gives a fuck, seriously?

AlperNYC- 09-20-2008
QUOTE (koukla @ September 19, 2008 06:57 pm)
But there are also places in these cities I mentioned that close during the day, their loss...one of my fave. kebab place was close some days ago.....however they choose.....but again their loss :)


Shame on those immigrants who try to dominate the public they "try" to live in with their way of understanding life. Yes it should be when in Rome...but these people skip one big virtue Islam teaches them: respect others and no forcement in religion. Brainwashed ignorants.

On the contrary its your loss and their gain, god rewards canim. Then again, your loss is our gain greekturkish/evil laugh.gif

Saka yapiyorum canim, alinma luften greekturkish/grouphug.gif

You're right about immigrant Arabs, they're pretty much the same all over the world. Siz bilmezsiniz ama, ne Turkler Araplarin camilerine gider, ne onlar bizimkine gelir. Dini goruslerimiz cok degisik.

AlperNYC- 09-20-2008
Bu arada Ramazan ayiniz mubarek olsun, az kaldi. Duyduguma gore Turkeye'de bu sezon Arap sicakligi varmis vay halinize greekturkish/lol.gif

Georgios- 09-20-2008
Thats what I hate about many immigrants from outside the western world. Westerners have all this policy of tolerance, embracing divercity, live and let live and so on and so forth.

Immigrants though, especially some Muslims from certain countries, just dont give a fuck. Easilly the people from the host country could have killed the lot of them just because they dont like the smell of the food on the streets, or because they are dirty or because they scream weird chants on the streets fucking up the harmony of their neithbourhood. But they dont.

Some immigrant behaviour is dispicable. Its like me inviting you in my house and u trying to fuck my wife and rob me.

I say deport the little brat to the shit hole he came from. So he can learn to appreciate the life he had in his host country.

artist- 09-20-2008
edit.
i 've mistaken the topic greekturkish/eeps.gif

Nikephoros- 09-20-2008
QUOTE (Georgios @ September 20, 2008 08:10 pm)
Westerners have all this policy of tolerance, embracing divercity, live and let live and so on and so forth.


In Greece there are too many fake-progressive leftists. I see those sh1theads in the Greek press about immigration they make the argument:

who are we (Greece) to be against all this immigration when we sent so many immigrants to Germany, USA, Canada, Australia

But they do not realize they compare dissimilar things. For one I have read studies of Greek Americans by Alice Scourby and Theodore Saloutos. In the early 1900s for a Greek to immigrate from the USA he had to when he had to apply and be accepted to immigrate. He had to hand his passport and documentation before boarding the steamer to American authorities stationed in Greece to facilitate the immigration, if the steamer stopped in say Italy he had to get documents checked again and when he landed in the USA, once again he had to have documents.

Is this happening with the immigration modern Greece is receiving? Does Greece have policies in place and the ability to enforce them or does it rely on illict immigrants doing what they please and then the scum political world giving them temp./quasi citizienship and voting rights?

They have UN conventions on asylum seeking and refugees now. Basically even if you immigrate illegally, you have a right to apply for refugee status or something and receive asylum seekers citizienship. And they have a right to an appeal of theirs being heard!

Who is gonna get the shaft on this issue? Muslim countries like Pakistan, Turkey, Morrocco or Greece(rest of the EU), Canada, USA? Because I know too well how the muslim street likes to manipulate these issues. Many Turk forumers even you can see how they abuse the concept of human rights to secure rights only for Turkish immigrants and friendly muslim minorities in the near-abroad and then when it comes to Turkey respecting the notion of human rights for internal minorities, --- FART!

Second the Greek immigration abroad happened very spread out in time from the 1800s to now(and now few Greeks immigrate abroad mostly to study abroad because of no true private universities fiasco) and like I said when these immigrants they just did not pop up and then rely on the UN conventions or notions of human rights or multi-culturalism.

Modern muslim nations should love human rights and clueless leftist thinkers. They do not have respect human rights in their land, when they step foot in the West they get to bitch and holler and moan of constant unfair treatment and bias against them. In their homeland non-muslims are a de-*test*-('")ed, barely tolerated and inferior community (unless they are source of foreign income like investors, tourists, businessmen).

Uski- 09-21-2008
the Pakis at my school are all on my ass about not fasting. I fucking hate how they discuss religion so openly and CONSTANTLY impose it on others(like me).

Nonetheless, Pakis are complete pussies and would never attack someone for not fasting.(although they would do it more violently than the Moroccans, if they werent complete pussies)


btw. religion in Pakistan is like a big dick con-*test*-('") that everybody is in. The only reason those people are so religious is because they're afraid of their neighbor telling everyone otherwise.

fucking idiots

artist- 09-21-2008
QUOTE (Uski @ September 21, 2008 05:32 pm)
the Pakis at my school are all on my ass about not fasting. I fucking hate how they discuss religion so openly and CONSTANTLY impose it on others(like me).

Nonetheless, Pakis are complete pussies and would never attack someone for not fasting.(although they would do it more violently than the Moroccans, if they werent complete pussies)


btw. religion in Pakistan is like a big dick con-*test*-('") that everybody is in. The only reason those people are so religious is because they're afraid of their neighbor telling everyone otherwise.

fucking idiots

x 10
thats so true that it becomes funny greekturkish/laugh.gif

LOS MAGANDOS- 09-22-2008
QUOTE (Georgios @ September 20, 2008 08:10 pm)


Immigrants though, especially some Muslims from certain countries, just dont give a fuck. Easilly the people from the host country could have killed the lot of them just because they dont like the smell of the food on the streets, or because they are dirty or because they scream weird chants on the streets fucking up the harmony of their neithbourhood. But they dont.



Are you for Fucking Real ???



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