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Zeus- 04-19-2007
I cant believe that loser is still trying to prove Greeks mass murdered Jews. Despite so much evidence being shoved in his face, up his ass, through his nose etc etc, that shows no such thing occured, and many many Greeks risked their own lives to save them.

Deman68- 04-19-2007
QUOTE (Chris @ March 28, 2007 09:29 am)
oh and Tem...i bet you've seen a lot of those in the family album

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Oi Germanoi einai filoi mas! greekturkish/evil laugh.gif

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a handsome soi it is too... greekturkish/bluebiggrin.gif

Deman68- 04-19-2007
QUOTE (Zeus @ April 19, 2007 10:04 pm)
I cant believe that loser is still trying to prove Greeks mass murdered Jews. Despite so much evidence being shoved in his face, up his ass, through his nose etc etc, that shows no such thing occured, and many many Greeks risked their own lives to save them.

he likes things being stuffed into confiend spaces... greekturkish/bluebiggrin.gif

domestos- 04-20-2007
QUOTE (Deman68 @ April 19, 2007 01:43 pm)
hahahah


X really, Turks treat jews ten times worse than Greeks do, many many Greeks dies protecting them....

while in Turkey Mein Kampf sells more copies than in Germany.... greekturkish/laugh.gif

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You need to learn more about history of Turks and Jews. We saved them from the bloody hands of Spanish catholics and brought them to the most beautiful cities of Ottoman Empire. Istanbul, Salonica, Izmir and Bursa greekturkish/Yes.gif

We might have made some mistakes in our history, however these are incommensurable to our favors to Jews. Today Israel is probably the only country that people have positive feelings to Turks. greekturkish/Yes.gif

Kayakiran- 04-20-2007
QUOTE (domestos @ April 20, 2007 07:54 am)
You need to learn more about history of Turks and Jews. We saved them from the bloody hands of Spanish catholics and brought them to the most beautiful cities of Ottoman Empire. Istanbul, Salonica, Izmir and Bursa greekturkish/Yes.gif

We might have made some mistakes in our history, however these are incommensurable to our favors to Jews. Today Israel is probably the only country that people have positive feelings to Turks. greekturkish/Yes.gif

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@Deman

You really should refrain from pulling utter bullshit outta your ass sometimes.

Deman68- 04-20-2007
QUOTE (domestos @ April 20, 2007 05:54 pm)
You need to learn more about history of Turks and Jews. We saved them from the bloody hands of Spanish catholics and brought them to the most beautiful cities of Ottoman Empire. Istanbul, Salonica, Izmir and Bursa greekturkish/Yes.gif

We might have made some mistakes in our history, however these are incommensurable to our favors to Jews. Today Israel is probably the only country that people have positive feelings to Turks. greekturkish/Yes.gif

i know that dome, but is it wrong to respond to x in the same way?..... greekturkish/aim-angel.gif

Deman68- 04-20-2007
QUOTE (Kayakiran @ April 20, 2007 06:34 pm)
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@Deman

You really should refrain from pulling utter bullshit outta your ass sometimes.

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man in my defence, it has to come out somehow.... greekturkish/sneaky.gif

i was having a go at X is all.... greekturkish/tiphat.gif

Zeus- 04-20-2007
QUOTE (Τεμενος @ March 28, 2007 09:35 am)
i know for a fact greeks started the fire....according to my pappou it was a plan to clean out the jews and rebuilt that part of the city,
to rebuild the city required funds and we received it from the english banks that were in thessaloniki that basically were servicing jewish interests...totally cleaned out the jews economically, socially & politically...

they're all in israel now celebrating their hannukah..

I know for a fact, from my papous great uncles sister Mary's husbands cousins three legged donkey, that more crap comes out of your mouth then backside.

You contradict what you know for a "fact" from your papou.
If the banks were serving Jewish interests, why would they become complicit in what you claim Greeks did?

Or is this some sort of e team aryan nazi wanabe logic?

Deman68- 04-20-2007
no it means that Tem's skull is completely devoid of logic... greekturkish/Yes.gif

Evropeos- 06-08-2007
Bust of Greek-Jewish WWII hero Frizis unveiled


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Caption: Thessaloniki Mayor Vassilis Papageorgopoulos (third from left) officially unveils a bust of Col. Mordechai Frizis in the city's Jewish Heroes Square on Friday, June 8, 2007. ANA-MPA/ MEGAPRESS/ B. GIRITZIOTIS.


06/08/2007

Bust of Greek-Jewish WWII hero Frizis unveiled

A bust of renowned WWII Greek Army Col. Mordechai Frizis, the first high-ranking Greek officer killed in action on the Albanian front (December 1940), was unveiled in Thessaloniki on Friday.

The ceremony, held at the Jewish Heroes Square in the northern Greece port city, was attended by national and local government officials, diplomats, World Council of Hellenes Abroad (SAE) honorary president Andrew Athens and representatives of Thessaloniki's Jewish community.

Frizis was one of the 12,898 Greek Jews who served in the Greek armed forces during the Second World War.

"The unveiling of Col. Frizis' bust reflects his own heroism and the sacrifices of Greek Jews," Central Board of Jewish Communities in Greece (KIS) President Moses Constantines said during the ceremony, while the head of Thessaloniki's Jewish community, David Saltiel, referred to the Halkida-born war hero's decorated military career, from a Greek military expedition in the Ukraine, the Asia Minor campaign of 1919-1922 to the Albanian front in 1940

His remains were buried at the Thessaloniki Jewish Cemetery in 2004 with full military honors in the presence of then Greek President Kostis Stephanopoulos after being transferred to Greece from Albania, following an intervention by the Greek general army staff.

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Spartan King- 06-08-2007
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Mavrogenides- 06-08-2007
Honour to a greek who gave his life for his country and against the nazis...

At least..to be jewish means just to believe in a certain religion.
It has nothing to say about someones nationality..sadly most people forget this.

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Georgios- 06-08-2007
Temenos reminds of the Greeks who would willingly joing the Nazi SS Greek divisions.


Julian- 06-08-2007
QUOTE (Mavrogenides @ June 08, 2007 08:09 pm)
to be jewish means just to believe in a certain religion.
It has nothing to say about someones nationality..sadly most people forget this.

Then how Frizis is considered to be "Jewish"? He must have converted since (unfortunately) you have to be Orthodox to become high-ranking Greek officer as far as I know.

Ethnicity, religion or both?

Spartan King- 06-08-2007
QUOTE (Julian @ June 09, 2007 12:18 am)
Then how Frizis is considered to be "Jewish"? He must have converted since (unfortunately) you have to be Orthodox to become high-ranking Greek officer as far as I know.

Ethnicity, religion or both?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Frizis

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Mordechai Frizis (Greek: Μαρδοχαίος Φριζής) was a Romaniote Jewish Greek military officer who died in action during the Greco-Italian War.

Mordechai Frizis was born on January 1, 1893, in the town of Chalkis, Euboea, the son of Jacob Frizis, one of twelve brothers and one sister.

Mordechai graduated in law from the University of Athens, and although his parents believed he would one day be a lawyer, Mordechai chose a different road for himself. <p>The Balkan Wars of 1912-3 instilled a sense of patriotism in young Mordechai. In 1916 he entered officer training in Euboea.

He served in the Macedonian Front during World War I, the Ukrainian expedition of 1919, and in the Asia Minor Campaign. After the collapse of the Greek front in 1922, Lieutenant Mordechai and his soldiers were captured by the Turks. As a non-Christian officer he was offered his freedom. Mordechai refused, enduring eleven months of captivity with his soldiers.<p>
The Greco-Italian War started on October 28, 1940 and marked the beginning of the Balkans Campaign of World War II. Italy had concentrated a large part of the Italian Army in neighboring Albania, bordering Epirus. By now Mordechai was a Major in the Greek Army's VIII Infantry Division, based in Ioannina in Epirus, his orders to stop the Italian offensive from Albania.

Mordechai never left his men during the fighting and always thought of their interests first, earning the strong loyalty of his soldiers. He would call them his "boys", and they in turn gave themselves the nickname "Frizaens" or Frizis' boys. His troops distinguished themselves in the Battle of Kalama, defending the bridge over the Kalama River, and capturing 700 Italian soldiers.
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On December 5, 1940, during the crossing of the Vistritsa River, two squadrons of Italian planes dived to attack the Greek column. After ordering his officers and men to take cover, Frizis remained mounted, despite being wounded by bomb fragments, continuing to rally his soldiers with the battle cry "Aera". After the planes left, his men found Frizis dead. Not having a Rabbi, a priest was brought over. He placed his hand on Mordechai's head and prayed: "Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one". Colonel Mordechai Frizis was the first senior officer in the Greek Army to be killed in World War II.
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One December 17, 1940 the Vradhini newspaper declared that Mordechai Frizis' name was written in golden letters in the Pantheon of Heroes who had sacrificed their lives for the independence of Greece. From the court of King George II of Greece, the following letter was sent to his wife: "On the glorious death for his country of your beloved husband, the heroic Colonel Mordechai Frizis, His Majesty the king has instructed me to convey to you and you family his deepest condolences".
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Ioannis Metaxas, the then Prime Minister of Greece, wrote the following letter to Mordechai's wife: "I learnt of the death on the field of honour of your husband, before you knew of it and I did not know how to inform you. Now from your letter I see that not only was he a hero, but he had a wife worthy of him. You and your family as well as those families, who have lost their protectors, will become the families of this state of ours. Please be assured that the protection of Greece will never leave you or your children. The children of Colonel Frizis will be revered by our nation's youth. With feelings of honour and love."

When the Axis forces entered Athens, a senior Italian officer named di Camp sought out Mordechai. He wrote in 1949: "The first thing I did was to learn where Mordechai Frizis was. He was a noble fighter and I wanted to meet him close up, to shake his noble hand. When I learnt he was dead, I was saddened Noble people cannot die. Perhaps they live on in our hearts, although they have left us in our lives."
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The Metropolitan of Chalkis wrote to Mordechai's widow in 1954: "Heroic Colonel Mordechai Frizis will be a continuous and praise worthy example of sacrifice for religion and country – and he will be the permanent pride of Chalkis."
In 1976, the newspaper Israilina Nea (Israeli News) published a letter from a senior Naval officer which read: "Colonel Mordechai Frizis did not die. Every time Greece is in danger, he goes among us, bolt upright on this horse, inspiring us."
Greek poet writer Alexander Gavrielidhis wrote the following in dedication to the fallen hero under the title 'Heroes are not Forgotten':
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"A legend was created in October 1940, as Greece refused for ever to accept Fascism. In a corner of the fields of Kalpaki history was written an example of great courage to younger generations. A shining courage brought glory to Greece, as one icy-cold morning a group of men died. On a proud horse he galloped to victory – the laurel wreath and the crown of roses belong to Mordechai. The name of Mordechai Frizis, pride of Chalkis, will live forever, a golden ray of sunshine. No one has forgotten him – heroes are not forgotten. He passed among the Immortals, and hymns will be sung in his honour. The mountains of Albania and the narrow banners and Flowers of Chalkis will ring out with song. The Greek peopleChristians and Jews – will pray for you, young and old Farewell my hero, who gave your life – my brother, we will always be in your presence."
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A memorial to Colonel Mordechai Frizis has been erected outside the National Military Museum in Athens.
In 2002 the remains of Mordechai Frizis, the first senior Greek officer to be killed in during World War II, were returned to Greece. They are buried in Thessaloniki's Jewish cemetery today.


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It seems that despite the fact he was born in a completely Jewish family, he rose to the rank of Lt Colnel. Reading the above article goes to show that he was a true hero with all meaning of the word, it is also a very moving tale.

Aiwnia tou h mnhmh

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