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Zeus- 02-04-2008
QUOTE (Red @ February 04, 2008 12:08 pm)

Offensive? No not,I corrected him not in a serious way.

Here all I can say is (just because you mentioned my name) if you want to be respected, this is what you do: You show respect to us as well. I'm not talking about you here,I'm talking about general stuf. I show respect to Greece,did you ever see me attacking to your country, talking bad about your religion,your people,Greek Cypriots? did you ever see me disrespecting you, or someone important for your people? One Greek forumer called him (Atatürk) "animal",I would never use this language for anyone that important for Greeks. I'm out of all these discussions.

Anyway I'm not interested in anymore,as I said before this forum changed my opinions a lot.

Take care.

Poor little kemalist.

Red- 02-05-2008
Yea I'm Nigger.

Do you think that you can attack everyone who doesn't kiss your ass everytime? Do you think that I need your permission to be anything else?

Mind your own business.

Zeus- 02-05-2008
QUOTE (Red @ February 05, 2008 08:22 am)
Yea I'm Nigger.

Do you think that you can attack everyone who doesn't kiss your ass everytime? Do you think that I need your permission to be anything else?

Mind your own business.

Why are you calling your self a nigger? greekturkish/screwy.gif


Attack anyone who doesn't kiss my ass? Who kisses my ass? greekturkish/laugh.gif You want to kiss it? My ex used to love pinching me on the ass greekturkish/ladida.gif


You want my permission now to be something? Well you decided your black apparently, so I can't give you my permission there, but I can give you my blessing. Will that satisfy your need for approval for the time being little kemalist?

Mind my own business? ....grow up, really. It's a discussion forum, people post, people reply. greekturkish/Rolls.gif



On your issue for respect, which has nothing to do with the issue this thread is intended for, why the fuck should we respect ataturk, a man who is responsible for genocide?
He is your sick national hero, not ours. You want to worship the murderer like a god, go for it.

Do you expect Jews to respect Hitler and his Nazi generals? greekturkish/shakehead.gif

domestos- 02-05-2008
QUOTE (Nikephoros @ February 05, 2008 08:03 am)

When Turks are demanding for people to respect Kemal they are asking in effect to worship the Turkish state and its official ideology. When Greek leaders visit Turkey and pose infront of the obligatory Ataturk portraits they legitimatize the official Turkish ideology that is the real source of Greek-Turkish problems.

Do not believe their(the Turks) lies. Their words are lies carefully calculated to hide the truth which they have no interest in.

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Our bey stomachs want a menu 9 and two menu 6. And extra mint and olive oil for tzatzikis please. Thanks!

Raven- 02-05-2008
i think there should be a ban on making comments about subjects which are capable of provoking others. e.g. comments made about Ataturk or comments about the whole Macedonia issue

domestos- 02-05-2008
QUOTE (Raven @ February 05, 2008 04:24 pm)
i think there should be a ban on making comments about subjects which are capable of provoking others. e.g. comments made about Ataturk or comments about the whole Macedonia issue

Bans are not the solution Raven. We need common sense instead of bans.

westerort- 02-05-2008
There should be no bans at all on any subject - as long as it is carried with a certain gentlemanship and dignity. If we ban a perfectly discussable subject, we're in effect admitting to ourselves that some of our worldly issues are too hard or too "holy" to face and criticize. That is in my opinion the epitome of cowardice and a character weakness which can be found in many populations throughout the world, and which deprives sensible and rational people from engaging in mutual understanding over problems that lesser men inflate to the most ludicrous proportions.

@Zeus

Who did Atatürk murder? (Edit: Who did he literally and directly murder?)

Zeus- 02-05-2008
@west

who did Hitler literally and directly murder?
who did Milosevic literally and directly murder?
who did Stalin literally and directly murder?
who did Mao literally and directly murder?
who did Saddam literally and directly murder?
who did Mugabe literally and directly murder?

westerort- 02-05-2008
great

thank you

kvk1- 02-05-2008
QUOTE (Zeus @ February 05, 2008 03:04 am)
Do you expect Jews to respect Hitler and his Nazi generals?  greekturkish/shakehead.gif


QUOTE (Zeus @ February 05, 2008 05:42 pm)

who did Hitler literally and directly murder?
who did Milosevic literally and directly murder?
who did Stalin literally and directly murder?
who did Mao literally and directly murder?
who did Saddam literally and directly murder?
who did Mugabe literally and directly murder?



Wow.

I've seen some shitty analogies on this board but this definitely takes the cake.

Simply awesome.

Zeus- 02-07-2008
QUOTE (akavak @ February 06, 2008 01:43 am)




Wow.

I've seen some shitty analogies on this board but this definitely takes the cake.

Simply awesome.

Of course its a shity analogy to you, you worship the asshole like a God.
So for you to hear negative things about your god, the truth, is like having your little heart broken by the most beautiful woman on the planet and your -*test*-('")icles stomped on with her high heels.

ataturk has bloody hands just like those other cunts I listed.


Its funny how so many turks can talk down about Serbs due to Milosevic, despite him not actually doing any killing him self, yet when it comes to your dead cult leader ataturk, its unthinkable.

greekturkish/jack.gif

Raven- 02-07-2008
tbh if Ataturk were alive today and saw the cult status he has he would probably be very disturbed about it as he was actually a very humble man.

personally i respect him very much but i believe the way he is worshipped by many as if he were a god disturbing.

kvk1- 02-07-2008
QUOTE (Zeus @ February 07, 2008 01:29 am)
Of course its a shity analogy to you, you worship the asshole like a God.
So for you to hear negative things about your god, the truth, is like having your little heart broken by the most beautiful woman on the planet and your -*test*-('")icles stomped on with her high heels.

ataturk has bloody hands just like those other cunts I listed.


Its funny how so many turks can talk down about Serbs due to Milosevic, despite him not actually doing any killing him self, yet when it comes to your dead cult leader ataturk, its unthinkable.

greekturkish/jack.gif

No, dickweed...it's a shitty analogy to anybody who knows something about history. Anybody who has anything to do with the military will have blood on their hands, I don't give a shit if you're Ghandi. But comparing somebody like fucking HITLER to Ataturk is beyond idiotic. If your only criteria is "blood on their hands" then we might as well compare both our armies and leaders to Hitler as well. I mean for fuck's sake...do you even know some of the shit Hitler organized and pulled off? Dumb fuck.

And hey, news fucking flash, as long as you continue be a prejudiced asshole and throw every single Turk in the world and Turkish member on here into your same blanket of judgment you're not even fucking worth dignifying a response to.

He's not my god, he's not my cult leader and I don't worship the man...read what I fucking wrote just a few posts up. I don't give a shit what your opinion of him is and I won't go batshit crazy if you call him"Gaymal Ataturk", an asshole or whatever your fucking heart desires. People are entitled to their opinions no matter how dumb they are...but don't flip a shit and automatically assume that I or anyone else is "one of those turks" just because I refute a moronic statement of yours.

greekturkish/jack.gif me all you want asshole. You're nothing but a prejudice cunt. Every post I've seen of yours here is how Turks are back-stabbing, two faced, liars...etc.

Have a nice fucking day.

Red- 02-07-2008
How many Greeks reacted against/criticised Rafaella's racist remarks? Her humiliations of Anatolian Turks?

http://greekturkish.18.forumer.com/index.p...indpost&p=35589

http://greekturkish.18.forumer.com/index.p...t=0&#entry13974

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... and I don't want to think what would Cyprus become if Tr enters EU, with freedom of movement etc. There are so many gypsies from Anatolia in the occupied areas and they are here illegaly, I wouldn't like to think what would Cy become if they are free to come and settle here.
BUT IF Tr enters EU, there should be restrictions regarding people of Turkish origin settling in Cy.

Red- 02-07-2008
Sevgili Raven, her 10 Kasım günü satta 9'u 5 geçe saygı duruşunda bulunan insanların bir çoğu bunu zorla yapmaz. Bu sevgi ve saygının ifadesidir,tavaf değildir. Bunun ötesinde Atatürk ismi, ilk kuruluşundan itibaren dinci akımlarla mücadele etmek zorunda kalmış Türkiye'de laikliğin ve Cumhuriyet'in simgesi haline gelmiştir.Özellikle bugün bulunduğumuz noktada,Türkiye Iran'mı olacak Malezya'mı tartışmaları arasında geleceğinden endişe eden insanların sarıldıkları bir değer olmuştur.Ben hiç bir terör olayından sonra veya bir ekopnomik kriz ardından insanların Anıtkabir'e aktığını görmedim.Ama ne zaman ki insanlar laikliğin tehlike altında olduğunu hissederler ve kaygı duyarlar,o noktada Anıtkabir'ekoşarlar.Bu hep böyle olmuştur.

Burda can sıkıcı olan bu şahsın burda,Yunan-Türk forumunda, Türk halkı için manevi değeri bu kadar yüksek olan birine eli kanlı katil,soykırımcı,hasta hero şeklinde hakaretler yağdırması,O'nu Hitler'le,Miloseviçle falan aynı kefeye koyması ve buna iki kişi dışında hiç bir Türk'ün tepki vermemesi. Bunu bir Türk yapsa alacağı tepkiyi ben tahmin edebiliyorum. Saygı tek taraflı olmaz,birilerinin artık bunu anlaması lazım.

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