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kvk1- 09-05-2008
http://www.mustafa.com.tr/

Somebody just sent me this....it absolutely took my breath away.

Turks living back in the motherland: is this supposed to be a big movie? Is it making a lot of pre-premiere buzz?

Music by Goran Bregovic too....so awesome.

Kayakiran- 09-05-2008
Sweet!!!

Nikephoros- 09-05-2008
As long as it Turkish I do not care.

But if the Turkey promote machine decides to step abroad in more international cinemas with a movie about Mustafa Kemal(which I assume this thread is about):

(Aside: with the usual "Turk promotion machine" lies about Greeks burning Smyrna and the the usual lies about 1+ million Greek peacefully moving when they were really fleeing for their lives, etc., etc.)

Then really Greece should do something, but it never would because of the well known Greek leftist(Losers in a half-shell, loser power) anorexia to do anything about "the Turk promotion machine" besides fueling it for free.

kvk1- 09-05-2008
QUOTE (Nikephoros @ September 05, 2008 05:46 pm)
As long as it Turkish I do not care.

But if the Turkey promote machine decides to step abroad in more international cinemas with a movie about Mustafa Kemal(which I assume this thread is about):

(Aside: with the usual "Turk promotion machine" lies about Greeks burning Smyrna and the the usual lies about 1+ million Greek peacefully moving when they were really fleeing for their lives, etc., etc.)

Then really Greece should do something, but it never would because of the well known Greek leftist(Losers in a half-shell, loser power) anorexia to do anything about "the Turk promotion machine" besides fueling it for free.

oi vey man...take a fucking break

Kayakiran- 09-05-2008
QUOTE (Nikephoros @ September 05, 2008 04:46 pm)
As long as it Turkish I do not care.

But if the Turkey promote machine decides to step abroad in more international cinemas with a movie about Mustafa Kemal(which I assume this thread is about):

(Aside: with the usual "Turk promotion machine" lies about Greeks burning Smyrna and the the usual lies about 1+ million Greek peacefully moving when they were really fleeing for their lives, etc., etc.)

Then really Greece should do something, but it never would because of the well known Greek leftist(Losers in a half-shell, loser power) anorexia to do anything about "the Turk promotion machine" besides fueling it for free.

What do you think Greece is going to do about it? Really sticks to your craw don't it? I can tell you got your feathers ruffled. greekturkish/smile.gif

katastrof- 09-05-2008
QUOTE (kvk1 @ September 05, 2008 02:16 pm)
http://www.mustafa.com.tr/

Somebody just sent me this....it absolutely took my breath away.

Turks living back in the motherland: is this supposed to be a big movie? Is it making a lot of pre-premiere buzz?

Music by Goran Bregovic too....so awesome.

Can Dündar + Goran Bregovic = greekturkish/blissysmile.gif

Rawshark- 09-06-2008
QUOTE (Nikephoros @ September 05, 2008 10:46 pm)
As long as it Turkish I do not care.

But if the Turkey promote machine decides to step abroad in more international cinemas with a movie about Mustafa Kemal(which I assume this thread is about):

(Aside: with the usual "Turk promotion machine" lies about Greeks burning Smyrna and the the usual lies about 1+ million Greek peacefully moving when they were really fleeing for their lives, etc., etc.)

Then really Greece should do something, but it never would because of the well known Greek leftist(Losers in a half-shell, loser power) anorexia to do anything about "the Turk promotion machine" besides fueling it for free.

You get more pathetic with every post.

Hopefully the day will never come that Greece is so fucked up as a nation up that a Turkish film about Ataturk is considered a 'threat' and something will have to be 'done' about it.

What a fucking loser you are.

greekturkish/loser.gif

Nikephoros- 09-06-2008
Something should have been done a long time ago about the "Turkey promotion machine abroad":

QUOTE ("Donald Quatert")

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/07/01/turkey
In the review, Quataert talks about how when he entered graduate studies in Ottoman history in the late 1960s, “there was an elephant in the room of Ottoman studies — the slaughter of the Ottoman Armenians in 1915.” He writes that “a heavy aura of self-censorship hung over Ottoman history writing,” excluding not only work on Armenians, but also on religious identity, the Kurds and labor issues. Only in recent years, he continues, has the “Ottomanist wall of silence” started to crumble.

[Nikephoros: Donald Quartet is not a very good guy he had not problem with the elephant or wall of silence until he was fired from his position in the Institute of Turkish Studies(USA based historical organization funded by the Turkish government to export Turkish official history abroad) for recognizing the Armenian genocide in a book review.]


For reference this is a Turkish profressor commenting on situation in Turkish universities:
QUOTE ("Halil Berktay")

http://www.historynewsnetwork.com/roundup/comments/8986.html
It didn't even occur to me that I would be abandoned by Sabanci University when I spoke out," Prof Berktay says. "In most Turkish state universities there is a stiff, straitjacketed, hierarchical approach to saying something perceived as being against the national interest, whatever that is, and in that framework it is virtually unthinkable to go against the conventional wisdom."


For a long time the Greek state has done nothing against the organized activity of Turkey exporting its unique official history abroad in the guise of "impartial" international scholars working at foreign universities. Whether it takes the form of a movie or of "impartial" foreign scholars, the Turkish official history has to be fought by Greece. These lies are used by the Turkish government to fool government leaders, public opinion and to create a positive international opinion for Turkey's pursued "national interests" which are against Greece and Cyprus. So obviously unlike you if theTurkey promotion train tries to make some whitewashed movie about Ataturk abroad, I would like to think the Greeks and Greece actually would do something instead of the usual nothing. Because such a movie will contain many lies against Greece and Greeks, because that is the only way they can maintain the official lie about a "war of national liberation", when the truth was anything but.

katastrof- 09-06-2008
Yeah Nikos, come and piss on this thread too, don't be shy.

Lethe- 09-07-2008
QUOTE
Then really Greece should do something, but it never would because of the well known Greek leftist(Losers in a half-shell, loser power) anorexia to do anything about "the Turk promotion machine" besides fueling it for free.


why is your almost all post ends with greek leftists? greekturkish/blank.gif

LOS MAGANDOS- 09-09-2008
QUOTE (Nikephoros @ September 05, 2008 10:46 pm)
As long as it Turkish I do not care.

But if the Turkey promote machine decides to step abroad in more international cinemas with a movie about Mustafa Kemal(which I assume this thread is about):

(Aside: with the usual "Turk promotion machine" lies about Greeks burning Smyrna and the the usual lies about 1+ million Greek peacefully moving when they were really fleeing for their lives, etc., etc.)

Then really Greece should do something, but it never would because of the well known Greek leftist(Losers in a half-shell, loser power) anorexia to do anything about "the Turk promotion machine" besides fueling it for free.


FREEDOM OF FUCKING EXPRESSION MOTHERFUCKER !!

If we wanna make an English Film About Ataturk as Mother Teresa.. we will.

Learn the Fucking Rules BUDDY !!

katastrof- 09-09-2008
I am extremely glad this is done by Can Dundar. This is a guy who already documented our fascist & deep underground, plus the lives of Ismet Inonu, (partly) Ataturk, Bulent Ecevit, Alparslan Turkes, Devlet Bahceli, Nazim Hikmet, Yilmaz Guney, etc… In doing all this, he has his own poetic touch knit over a cold, objective realism.

I am expecting this to be very poetic & emotional, but nothing more than the "life & times of Mustafa". The choice of the title and the intro suggests it’s going to be a very personal account of Ataturk’s life, and not much politics. Can’t wait to see it.

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