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mechanicalghost- 08-31-2008
Hello, Greek Turkish Forum...I'm your newest member!

I'm actually not Greek or Turkish. I'm a Lebanese Armenian (with some Arab on my mother's side), but was born and live in the United States. My parents are from a suburb of Beirut called Burj Hammud. It was pretty much an Armenian ghetto with very few Arabs, until recently. But one of the well-known Arabs from there is Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah (rumor has it he speaks Armenian).

Politically, I'm as left of left as you can get. I'm also an atheist. I oppose blind nationalism, racism, imperialism (and quite a few other -isms). I consider myself stateless.

Looking forward to joining the discussions!

katastrof- 08-31-2008
Let me be the first to welcome you. We are looking forward to you joining the discussions as well.


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P.S: Indeed, screw all the "-ism"s. greekturkish/Yes.gif

Red- 08-31-2008
Anyway,welcome mechanicalghost.

mechanicalghost- 08-31-2008
Thanks for the welcome. greekturkish/smile.gif

I should add that I don't speak/read/write Armenian very well, and only understand very little Arabic.

Red- 08-31-2008
Interesting...anyway you will not need Armenian or Arabic here.

Duke-Nukem- 08-31-2008
QUOTE (Red @ August 31, 2008 11:22 am)
Interesting...anyway you will not need Armenian or Arabic here.

...but ull need some turkish to understand Reds whinning greekturkish/laugh.gif

kvk1- 08-31-2008
Welcome!

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domestos- 08-31-2008
QUOTE (mechanicalghost @ August 31, 2008 02:16 pm)
Thanks for the welcome. greekturkish/smile.gif

I should add that I don't speak/read/write Armenian very well, and only understand very little Arabic.


Parew sireli yeghpayris. greekturkish/toytoy.gif greekturkish/toytoy.gif greekturkish/toytoy.gif

Get yourself a drink and enjoy the party. greekturkish/beerchug.gif

Duke-Nukem- 09-01-2008
QUOTE (mechanicalghost @ August 31, 2008 10:52 am)
Hello, Greek Turkish Forum...I'm your newest member!

I'm actually not Greek or Turkish. I'm a Lebanese Armenian (with some Arab on my mother's side), but was born and live in the United States. My parents are from a suburb of Beirut called Burj Hammud. It was pretty much an Armenian ghetto with very few Arabs, until recently. But one of the well-known Arabs from there is Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah (rumor has it he speaks Armenian).

Politically, I'm as left of left as you can get. I'm also an atheist. I oppose blind nationalism, racism, imperialism (and quite a few other -isms). I consider myself stateless.

Looking forward to joining the discussions!

what's ur position re the Armenian Genocide?

Kayakiran- 09-01-2008
Hope you don't mind if I call you MG since your nick is so long. Welcome to the forums. greekturkish/beerchug.gif

mechanicalghost- 09-02-2008
QUOTE (Duke-Nukem @ September 01, 2008 04:11 pm)
what's ur position re the Armenian Genocide?

It is similar to Halil Berktay's position. Have you heard/read him?

He spoke at the ATL (Armenians and the Left, now called APP, Armenians and Progressive Politics) conference in '07. He was encouraging Armenians and Turks to set up a historical commission, even though Armenians in the audience seemed to object to it, as well as Henry Theriault, a non-Armenian panelist...

koukla- 09-04-2008
Welcome! greekturkish/welcome.gif

Nightmare- 09-05-2008
Welcome

domestos- 09-05-2008
QUOTE (mechanicalghost @ September 03, 2008 01:13 am)
It is similar to Halil Berktay's position. Have you heard/read him?

He spoke at the ATL (Armenians and the Left, now called APP, Armenians and Progressive Politics) conference in '07. He was encouraging Armenians and Turks to set up a historical commission, even though Armenians in the audience seemed to object to it, as well as Henry Theriault, a non-Armenian panelist...

I also feel myself closer to Berktay's position. But you know, setting up a historical comission means different things to different people. The problem between two sides is how it will work. Turkish officials also say "let's set up a historical comission and leave history to historians". I've heard this sentence even from Halacoğlu the dumbfuck. greekturkish/laugh.gif








Again very glad to meet you BTW. greekturkish/beerchug.gif

katastrof- 09-05-2008
A small addition: This "historical commission" and "leaving the issue to historians" approaches were initially offered by the Armenian government [I think by Petrosyan circa 1993, but I'd need to check my facts on this], whose priority was to start economic relations with Turkey immediately. This was abruptly declined by the Turkish government at the time, although I don't remember under what exact pretext.

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