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AlperNYC- 10-13-2008
One of my main intentions for creating this topic is to get our Turkish members more politically aware of our situation in Turkey. Generally, those who aren't in the scene or situated in conservative zones wouldn't have the sligh-*test*-('") idea of various cemaat's in and outside Turkey or the services they provide. In most cases these cemaat's dont associate with each other and certain cemaat's tend to feel strong disgust for causes or what they stand for.

When Akp politics, their religious mindset and supporters are brought to the topic of discussion an ignorant might see them as Fethullahcilar, though in reality Akp, its sub-branch and its conservative supporters are in fact from Milli Gorus teskilati and as far as i know, neither Fetcullahcilar and Milli Gorus get along fine, both viewing each other as morally repugnant customs. Having said that, I personally see Milli Gorus cause or their path for that matter, as right the path having cemented the traditional Ottoman Islamic understanding as their cause, where the former have chosen a cause of action which most view it as manufiklik and out side Islamic principles.

Although I am neither Fetcullahci or with Milli Gorus, I would choose the latter on given day.. that of course for some reason if i had to choose one. On a second thought, i hope i am right but there's still a chance i might be wrong with my predictions, analysis.. Still researching whether akp is Milli Gorus or Fethullahci.


Some interesting facts about Fethullah Gulen

Fethullah Gülen:Peygambere Gerek Yok!

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Nihat Genc Fethullah Gulen Kelime-i Sahadet i soyleyemiyor!

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Fethullah Gülen-Misyonerler ve Hedefleri!

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Fethullah Gülen:Kur'an Ayetleri Çok SERT!

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LOS MAGANDOS- 10-13-2008
The most interesting Fact is that they are all Cunts.

AlperNYC- 10-13-2008
Fethullah Gülen - Ajanlık Hizmeti CIA

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LOS MAGANDOS- 10-13-2008

Another interesting fact is that Milli Gorus are Cunts on an even larger level.

They are the Cancer of the Turkish Republic.

Spartan King- 10-14-2008
Who are they?

The opening of the first Youtube video looked like a fundementalist Muslim video.


kvk1- 10-14-2008
QUOTE (Spartan King @ October 14, 2008 06:12 pm)
Who are they?

The opening of the first Youtube video looked like a fundementalist Muslim video.

Bingo.

That's all you need to know.

The guy and his entire organization are wolves in sheep's clothing.

And the retards who are sucking his dick thinking he is some enlightened and/or modern Muslim are gullible fools.

kvk1- 10-14-2008
QUOTE (LOS MAGANDOS @ October 13, 2008 07:08 am)
Another interesting fact is that Milli Gorus are Cunts on an even larger level.

They are the Cancer of the Turkish Republic.

True story.

kvk1- 10-14-2008
http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article...ls.php?id=10273

AlperNYC- 10-14-2008
QUOTE (Spartan King @ October 14, 2008 11:12 pm)
Who are they?

The opening of the first Youtube video looked like a fundementalist Muslim video.

lol yazik akli Turk millitini halen kavramis degil

Can you do me a favor, if youre going to post something that ignorant you might as well refrain from posting any comments from this point onwards. Although what im more curious about is how you conclude your opinion of video as a fundamentalist video.. Are you aware of the fact that our holly book is Kuran and yours is bible? Our place of worship is mosque and yours is church? While you have religious orthodoxism in your public schools/classes we teach islam & kuran?

AlperNYC- 10-14-2008
QUOTE (kvk1 @ October 14, 2008 11:59 pm)
Bingo.

That's all you need to know.

The guy and his entire organization are wolves in sheep's clothing.

And the retards who are sucking his dick thinking he is some enlightened and/or modern Muslim are gullible fools.

As the saying goes monkey see, monkey do.

Given the fact that he has been living in US since 1999 and is reluctant to step another foot in Turkey, all theories suggests Fethullah is most likely a cia funded/supported individual who is working towards usa's "new middle-east" project. Its just a shame some of its followers are too blind to see this reality and the fact that this peasant present him self as a messiah is well and truly a sad scene.

Ive been giving great thinking about akp, so far i could base my theory on akp's past and their current support base. As many know, a large portion of the current governments members are former Saadet/Refah politicians, associates of Milli Gorus whos greater interests are opening of schools, mosques and forming a Turkish cultural support for those aboard and in Turkey, in line with traditional Ottoman Islamic understanding and principles.

Speaking from experience and from what i've witnessed, Fethullahcilar goal is to open schools for dialog and understanding within abrahamic religions. Mind you this is a group who refuses to accept our kelime-i sehadet lailahe illalah muhammedin resurullah there is only one god and muhammed is his messenger. They despised and ousted within other conservative cemaat's, mean while Milli Gorus and likes are continuing to keep fethullah outside Turkey at all costs.

AlperNYC- 10-15-2008
DİNLER ARASI DİYALOĞUN AMACI NEDİR ?

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Fethullah Gülen-Tanrı Doğuran Bakire

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kvk1- 10-15-2008
QUOTE (AlperNYC @ October 14, 2008 10:30 pm)
lol yazik akli Turk millitini halen kavramis degil

Can you do me a favor, if youre going to post something that ignorant you might as well refrain from posting any comments from this point onwards. Although what im more curious about is how you conclude your opinion of video as a fundamentalist video.. Are you aware of the fact that our holly book is Kuran and yours is bible? Our place of worship is mosque and yours is church? While you have religious orthodoxism in your public schools/classes we teach islam & kuran?

^

this is your brain on religion


LOS MAGANDOS- 10-15-2008
QUOTE (AlperNYC @ October 15, 2008 03:30 am)
lol yazik akli Turk millitini halen kavramis degil

Can you do me a favor, if youre going to post something that ignorant you might as well refrain from posting any comments from this point onwards. Although what im more curious about is how you conclude your opinion of video as a fundamentalist video.. Are you aware of the fact that our holly book is Kuran and yours is bible? Our place of worship is mosque and yours is church? While you have religious orthodoxism in your public schools/classes we teach islam & kuran?


Man, shut the fuck up, you are an EMBARESSMENT.


katastrof- 10-15-2008
QUOTE (AlperNYC @ October 14, 2008 08:30 pm)
lol yazik akli Turk millitini halen kavramis degil

Can you do me a favor, if youre going to post something that ignorant you might as well refrain from posting any comments from this point onwards. Although what im more curious about is how you conclude your opinion of video as a fundamentalist video.. Are you aware of the fact that our holly book is Kuran and yours is bible? Our place of worship is mosque and yours is church? While you have religious orthodoxism in your public schools/classes we teach islam & kuran?

(banging on chest) Tarzan... (pointing finger) Spartan.
(banging on chest) Tarzan... (pointing finger) Spartan.
...

Neither the Kuran, nor your howling wolves have any place in our public schools, you caveman.

optimaton- 10-15-2008
Keeping religion out of the mainstream only encourages its radicalism- full stop




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