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a recent genetic study suggests the Nuristanis (aka the Kalasha) are actually indigenous peoples of the region with no connection to Alexander the Great's army:



they are largely Central Asian genetically with little or no genetic links to any European populations.

source:
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2008/02/huge-...an-genetic.html

the idea of the Kalash being the descendants of Alexanders armies was made up by romantic western visitors to the region who were suprised by the generally fair skin complexion of the Kalash

.........sorry, far from certain, babeaa


http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...gi?artid=447589

The older study Duke linked to was not detailed enough and failed to find any connection between Greeks and Kalash anyway.
The newer, much more detailed study Raven is citing is very conclusive. The Kalash are Asians. No connection to the Balkans whatesoever. This of course does not mean their ancestors did not serve under Alexander or the Seleucids. And they deserve all the assistance Greece can offer them regardless of their history and origin.

Yeah heaven forbid the Greeks could have fucked anyone and turned them Greek. That's only something Turks can do right?

the blog i found that research on belongs to a certain anthropologist called DIENEKES PONTIKOS who, as his name suggests is a GREEK.

stop being so damn childish and face facts

It always coms down to genetics for you, doesn't it.

This is not about genetics but about self-identity, of a Hellenic ethnos in the old region of Bactria. If they consider themselves Greeks, it's good enough for me.


btw, has anyone seen the film "The Man Who Would Be King" with Sean Connery and Michael Caine?



To cut to the chase, Sean Connery and Michael Caine are Freemason adventurors wanting to travel pass Afghanistan to a fictional region (I assume it is) called Kafiristan, have themselves declared gods and steal as much loot as they can.

While explaining their plan to Christopher Plumber, he tells them, "No white man has been there and come out since Alexander."

"Alexander who?" queries Michael Caine.

"Alexander the Great, King of Greece, 300 years before Christ," replies Christopher Plumber.

"If a Greek can do it, we can do it," is Michael Caine's response.

Here's the part of the film I was referring to:

Man who would be king

Fellow Greeks, genetics does not favour us. I mean yes, large numbers of Greeks headed east for generations after Alexander. They tried to build a better life for themselves anywhere from Anatolia to India. But they did not settle in some god-forsaken mountain valley in the Hindokush.
There is at least one credible study showing Pakistani Pathans (Pashto speakers) with about 10% Balkan paternal ancestry. Afghan Pathans may prove to have higher or much higher percentages.
So far genetics show us to be related to marauding Albanians, barbaric Turks, mafiosi south Italians and now - Lord how much worse can it get? - the Taliban.
Me tis ygeies mas

yes because genetics are far more reliable than a bunch of old wives tales

Do we have their genes or....do all of the above really just have our genes?

But doesn't bother me anyway, the origins of these Afghanis that is. Their assertion of a Greek ancestry at least reminds everyone who Alexander was.

Raven, how old are you? 20? And what is you're "expertise" in the studies of genetics? Posting in amateur genetic message boards? Right?

Now, tell me, was Alexander the Great Greek or is it an old wive's tale?

Did Greek settlements reach as far as modern Afghanistan or is that old wives tales as well.

Answer me the above!

I've told you once before, and if you insist on being an inconclusive cock, I'll keep telling you, you're just a gonzo kemalist nationalist who uses this science selectivly to miscontrues history for his own agenda, especially that of the Greeks.

yes i am. so what? my age is irrellevent.

you do not have to be an expert in order to work out what those studies say. Just because you dont like the results obtained doesnt mean they are false.

the old wives tale is that the Nuristani are descendants of ATG army just because they happen to have fair skin something which is NOT TRUE as they have been found to be NATIVE CENTRAL ASIANS!!!.

i have done no such thing

I actually find Raven to be pretty objective, fair and well informed.

If they have any of mine they have to pay for a licence to use them