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optimaton- 03-23-2008
I got this from another site, but it's just to show how delusional their nationalism has become, absolutely defies all logic and conventions:

As we all know Gruevski has renamed their airport in Skopje as "Alexander the Great", the main square as "Pella" and the main road as "Philip". But that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Here's a recent poster for a rally organised by their uber-nationalists:

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Translation:

FINAL WARNING
Pro-*test*-('"), square Pella, 27th February 2008 y., 19.00 O'Clock

Macedonia.
Macedonian.
Macedonians.

ONLY THAT ACCEPTED BY US *
7000 years of Macedonian literacy
3000 years of Macedonian land
2000 years of Christianity in Macedonia


Yep, that is correct, they claim their documented language is over 7,000 years! Apparently, they claim it evovled from rock-carvings!!!


This is the stuff they discuss in their forums:

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Notice the thread titled “Are Scottsman Actually Macedonians?”

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translation
Not are they they are
They are Macedonian nobility families which fled to the big island with a purpose to preserve their wealth from the Roman conquest of Macedonia.....well take a look yourself they have the bagpipes, the pattern and cut on the clothing is similar if not the same as our traditional garb, only they have the volume and strength to play the game of throwing balks at distance, carrying a burden, rugby....everything is alike its just I don't know is there anybody of them who is having the same DNA as ours which would confirm that they are Macedonians.


Before you write it off as things posted by a minority, let's have a look at their government sites:

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The penetration of Slavic tribes towards the Balkans ended at the beginning of the seventh century and created a new situation – Macedonia’s population mixed with the Slav newcomers but retained the Macedonian name, traditions and culture

Applying similar battle tactics as Alexander the Great in his numerous quests, Samuel managed to liberate the entire territory of ethnic Macedonia and even expand his kingdom through neighbouring territories reaching Danube in Bulgaria, Peloponnesus in current day Greece, Epirus and current day Albania, Zeta and Srem current day Serbia. At the peak of his kingdom, Samuel moved the seat of his kingdom from the island St. Achilles, Prespa to Ohrid where he was crowned king. In the period from 969 until 1018, a vast empire of the Macedonians emerged, second empire of the Macedonians after the empire of Alexander the Great, the Empire of King Samuel with its capital in Ohrid.

http://www.mfa.gov.mk//default1.aspx?ItemID=291


Not only that, but the skops also claim to be God's chosen people!!!!

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Why did Paul the Apostle come to preach the new idea first in Macedonia and not in some other European country? How shall we explain this fact? What was it that attracted the attention of this apostle? There can only be one explanation: Paul the Apostle was a brilliant man who knew very well that in order to spread his gospel successfully he should win over to his side a renowned and dignified nation, equal to the Romans in the strength of its spirit. In those ancient times Macedonia was such a nation. To deny the existence of Macedonia and the Macedonians means to deny the truthfulness of the Bible, and the work and the epistles of the grea-*test*-('") among the apostles, Paul.

http://www.macedonianemb.org.au/index_about.html


You read that, it's a sin to deny them as the real "Macedonians".


The proof is there, they've lost the plot completely.

Zeus- 03-24-2008
Mate for me it was confirmed they had lost the plot when they started claiming George Bush as a Macedonian along with a dozen former US Presidents.

optimaton- 05-12-2008
Fyrom propaganda works by a massive disinformation campaign, which basically involves setting up websites that they then try to pass of as "academic" and which they then quote from.

This is from one of their "information" sites, where they quote a German historia, Ulrich Wilcken, from his book Alexander the Great, 1967

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What Ulrich actually wrote about the ancient Macedonians

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Georgios- 05-12-2008
Crazy shit. greekturkish/laugh.gif

Who cares? fuck em.

LOS MAGANDOS- 05-12-2008

This is sooo fucking boring...

Although you can understand them not wanting to be labelled as Greks.

optimaton- 05-12-2008
QUOTE (LOS MAGANDOS @ May 13, 2008 12:27 am)
This is sooo fucking boring...


Just as boring as your "AKP wants to turn Turkey into a Sharia state".

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Although you can understand them not wanting to be labelled as Greks.


Don't let them hear you saying that, turko. They'll serve your cajunas on a platter. greekturkish/killa.gif

o prosfigas- 05-12-2008
why the mantilla issue , what a great subject .


"OMG THE HEADSCARVES INVADE OUR UNI'S , NUKE THEM FROM ORBIT , TOAST THEM IN HELL , SEND THEM TO GAVURS GREEKS , RECYCLE THEM , OH NOESSS greekturkish/icon_smile_dead.gif "

optimaton- 05-25-2008
Banner leading the Skop rally yesterday in Melb greekturkish/Rolls.gif

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When a people don't have a past they simply just make it up.


But it's okay, friends. While they dream on about Thessaloniki, reality will shortly be catching up with them...

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Zeus- 05-25-2008
I bet the Aussies who bothered to give them a glance were like, wtf is solun? greekturkish/laugh.gif

They actually had banners with the Greek flag, where the cross was replaced by a nazi swastika.

These people have no shame.

o prosfigas- 05-25-2008
why solun and not selanik? that way we will satisfy and some of our own people here in greece greekturkish/sneaky.gif

Duke-Nukem- 05-25-2008
skop trash is backed by the bulgarians, who run a back up and support of the mako-fachos with their all too obvious agenda:

http://www.bulgarmak.org/

Raven- 05-25-2008
what a absolute circus the Balkans really is greekturkish/laugh.gif

no wonder the rest of the world laughs at it

o prosfigas- 05-25-2008
QUOTE (Raven @ May 25, 2008 04:23 pm)
what a absolute circus the Balkans really is greekturkish/laugh.gif

no wonder the rest of the world laughs at it

you can say that again greekturkish/Yes.gif

And lets not forget the prime circus presenter user posted image

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remind you he is a pontian greekturkish/laugh.gif

kvk1- 05-25-2008
Man I'm so god damn embarrassed as I don't know anything about the issue here as I get asked about it a lot by my Greek mates here on what I think about it.

They're like what do you think about the naming case? And I have to say "Oh you mean with the people that have the red and yellow flag?" because I keep forgetting whether calling them FYROM is offensive or Macedonians. greekturkish/laugh.gif

I keep looking for UNBIASED links that aren't set-up solely to attack other's point of view but can't find any.

domestos- 05-25-2008
QUOTE (optimaton @ May 25, 2008 04:00 pm)
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Even I greekturkish/jack.gif to this.

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