In the book Defying Gravity: How to win at Weightlifting (1981) by Bill Starr, he says on pg. 88:

Who is Bill Starr?

In 1969 he the first head coach of the American International Weightlifting Team to also be an active weightlifter (Ibid. p. 36). He also was a father figure of American strength sports.

I know someone who has cancer and is on chemotherapy and was prescribed steroids. Now if steroids and other performance enhancers are allegedly harmful, then they definitely should be kept away from such people who have lowered health and immune systems. But since they are not really that harmful, they actually help such populations as AIDS/HIV and cancer infected people improve their health. If the media hype were true these people would deteriorate faster.

Another source is the documentary:
Bigger Stronger Faster Mininova torrent 879 mb (mp4 format)

In that Documentary they say that IOC officials suppress when certain big name athletes -*test*-('") positive.

I have a feeling the sensationalist Greek media and public had a big hand in the steroid controversies to rock Greece barring alot of Greek athletes from medal contention when just about every elite has to dope or else they are not elite, period. Tests mean nothing, according to Bill Starr:

So it is very easy to pass -*test*-('")s if proper precautions are taken. You will not become an athlete level athlete if you depend for all your gains on performance enhancers without using a proper periodized program for your sport.

Ya, aided by performance enhancing drugs.
Just because he eats a lot each day and can swim long distances, doesn't mean he isn't on drugs. Just because one takes performance enhancing drugs, doesn't mean they will stop their normal routine.

Does anyone know were there is a standings table for the basketball?
The official site is absolutely shit house and useless. I've never come across a more disorganized and pointless web site. Instead of spending millions on fake CGI fireworks, they should have put together a useful, user friendly, easy to navigate official site.

Always rely on a Vic source, Port boy

http://www.theage.com.au/olympics/beijing-2008/results/

Just click on "basketball" on the left

QFs
Spain - Croatia
Lithuania - China
United States - Australia
Argentina - Greece

Not entirely sure but if we get passed the Argies (current Olympic champs and definitely not pushovers) I think we might be playing the US in the SF.

To date:

Turkish medals
Silver- Elvan Abeylegesser Women's 10000m
Silver- Sibel Ozkan Women's Weightlifting 48kg
Bronze- Nazmi Avluca Greco-Roman 84kg

Greek medals
Silver- Men's Light Double Rowing
Bronze- Women's Yngling Class Sailing
Bronze- Hrysopiyí Devetzí Triple Jump

Not the best tallies, especially when both countries had become accustomed to winning gold in the last four Olympics. So three more event days left after today. Does anyone know if any Greek or Turkish athletes left with a realistic chance to win any medals?

Yeah I didn't bother checking other Aussie news sites, because the main one, news.com.au, has just as shit coverage as the official Beijing site.

Actually I think we will be playing Lithuania or China(whoever wins) in the semis.
And the winners of Australia-USA and Spain-Croatia play in the other semi.
If thats the case, looks like we will be playing Spain or the USA if we make the final.
Regardless though, Spain, USA, Lithuania...all top and tough teams.

I'm predicting a bronze for our boys.


ps colliwobble, we are ready to welcome Didak home!

Actually if we beat Argentina, we play the USA should the USA beat Australia.

i dont think we can beat argentina although i wouldnt be surprised if we do. But the USA is awesome this time and they will get all of the teams

I won't be surprised if we have gold tomorrow

This Olympics has been the first big sports event I haven't followed in the last... 10 years at least. Lucky for me, watching those weightlifting events would be painful as hell.

YEAHHHHHHHHHH RAMAZAN SAHIN GOT THE GOLD FOR TURKEY !!!!!

TURKIC RAMAZAN SAHIN BORN IN DAGESTAN RAISED IN TURKEY, PROUD TO BE TURKIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT was great how he thanked almighty ALLAH after the victory!!!!!!!

At Last a GOLD for Turkey :-

Ramazan Sahin

66 KG - Wrestling

fuck you tayyip erdogan, why did you let Hamza yerlikaya stop with wrestling? and he was elected a parliement member, now we would have 2 gold



It's our first olympic gold since 1996 in freestyle wrestling, it reminded me of "grey wolf" Mahmut Demir who got gold in 1996 ( 130 kg. ) I was 10 years old back then

10 in 96 ???

HAHAHAH

your a fuckin baby !!!

Usain Bolt is half Lamborghini half human.

19.30s in 200m. World Record. One of the biggest moments in olympic history - if not the grea-*test*-('") ever.

I was blown away.