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Duke-Nukem- 11-23-2007
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mickey- 11-23-2007
what travel agent do you have to book through?

Uski- 11-24-2007
nice nice this prison is right up there with the Turkish prisons...i spent several years in a Turkish prison...best years of my life

Kayakiran- 11-24-2007
Perfect setting for "Resident Evil: 5"

Arabas Perna- 11-29-2007
Bloody hell. What is the world coming to...

Zeus- 11-29-2007
greekturkish/blank.gif break the law go to prison live comfortably for a few years at the taxpayers expense.

Mythos- 11-29-2007
QUOTE (Zeus @ November 30, 2007 03:33 am)
greekturkish/blank.gif break the law go to prison live comfortably for a few years at the taxpayers expense.

Seems like the right approach though. In prison's around the world you go in with a masters in marijuana and get out with a doctorate in murder. And besides, prisons sbould be there to deny your freedom, not a decent life.

LOS MAGANDOS- 11-30-2007

Prisoner's rights is an important issue.. you are taking away these peoples freedoms, no need to treat them like animals... otherwise they just become more like animals.

Arabas Perna- 11-30-2007
QUOTE (LOS MAGANDOS @ November 30, 2007 03:03 pm)
Prisoner's rights is an important issue.. you are taking away these peoples freedoms, no need to treat them like animals... otherwise they just become more like animals.

Sure, but that can be achieved by cheaper means. Basic, but clean and safe, concrete and metal are fine. In fact anywhere if it's given a lick of paint and kept clean and tidy can look good. I seriously doubt going this far is worth it.

ODYSSEUS- 12-01-2007
QUOTE (Uski @ November 24, 2007 07:49 am)
nice nice this prison is right up there with the Turkish prisons...i spent several years in a Turkish prison...best years of my life

what was the reason of your imprisonment?

ODYSSEUS- 12-01-2007
QUOTE (LOS MAGANDOS @ November 30, 2007 03:03 pm)
Prisoner's rights is an important issue.. you are taking away these peoples freedoms, no need to treat them like animals... otherwise they just become more like animals.

X3, Zeus did not understand major issues here, human rights should always be respected and a comfortable environment in prisons does contribute in the reformation of the prisoners

Uski- 12-01-2007
QUOTE (ODYSSEUS @ December 01, 2007 04:30 pm)
what was the reason of your imprisonment?

I tried to kill the Pope greekturkish/eeps.gif

Zeus- 12-02-2007
QUOTE (ODYSSEUS @ December 01, 2007 06:33 pm)
X3, Zeus did not understand major issues here, human rights should always be respected and a comfortable environment in prisons does contribute in the reformation of the prisoners

greekturkish/doh.gif

What major issues?
They are criminals. Why should they receive a free holiday in resort style conditions, at the tax payers expense?
They are in jail for a reason. They are there to serve a sentence, their punishment for the crimes they committed. They are not there to have a holiday.


Get that through you thick fucking skull you wanabe philosopher.


There are hospitals, mental institutions, and other state care facilities, which don't have the levels of luxuries seen in those images of prisons above. People who haven't committed any crimes.

How many hospitals in Greece, are in a shocking state? Quite a few. But you, you would rather see criminals in Greece living it up in what resembles a 5 star resort rather then a prison.

Human rights? What has that got to do with the resort style living provided to criminals at tax payers expense? greekturkish/Rolls.gif


Resort style living contributes to the rehabilitation of the scum of society? Yeah, right.
The only thing it contributes to, is sending the message to these scum bags that they can commit crimes on the outside, and the best punishment they will get is a free holiday in prison at someone else's expense.

ODYSSEUS- 12-02-2007
QUOTE (Zeus @ December 02, 2007 07:14 am)
greekturkish/doh.gif

What major issues?
They are criminals. Why should they receive a free holiday in resort style conditions, at the tax payers expense?
They are in jail for a reason. They are there to serve a sentence, their punishment for the crimes they committed. They are not there to have a holiday.


Get that through you thick fucking skull you wanabe philosopher.


There are hospitals, mental institutions, and other state care facilities, which don't have the levels of luxuries seen in those images of prisons above. People who haven't committed any crimes.

How many hospitals in Greece, are in a shocking state? Quite a few. But you, you would rather see criminals in Greece living it up in what resembles a 5 star resort rather then a prison.

Human rights? What has that got to do with the resort style living provided to criminals at tax payers expense? greekturkish/Rolls.gif


Resort style living contributes to the rehabilitation of the scum of society? Yeah, right.
The only thing it contributes to, is sending the message to these scum bags that they can commit crimes on the outside, and the best punishment they will get is a free holiday in prison at someone else's expense.

i will not debate with you, i will just say this and get it into your fucking skull mr wannabe philosopher

prisons are places where people who have been convicted are forced to spend time over there, despite the punishment that they naturally receive about their crimes those people should get a chance to be reformed.

For this reason and because everybody is entitled to live in humaine conditions, the condition of their imprisonment plays a vital role in their psychology and if those people feel that society is vindictive against them be sure that they will repeat their crimes over and over again

So the citizens that you care so much about them you fukin hypocrite , will have to pay for them again and again in the future, the only way to stop that is to make them useful and welcome them back to the society after reforming them, of course all offenders are not going to be reformed however the state has the obligation to do its best for their reformation.

And something else if you think that spending time to prison even in a modern prison is like being on holidays you must be out of your fucking mind

In this particular prison prisoners have the chance to play basketaball, billiard and talk to their relatives in a nice environment this significantly distracts their attention from criminal activities and improves their behavior because their psychology is much better than in ordinary Greek style or Turkish style prison.

The conditions in the Greek hospitals and mental institutions is a different topic and has nothing to do with this particular issue, if you want to talk about this topic open a thread and we can talk about it in detail.
Im not pleased with the conditions in the Greek hospitals (using the term hospitals we include the mental insitutions too_) however this has to do with the incompetent politicians that rule our country and nothing to do with the correctional facilities, in both hospitals and correctional facilities the conditions of life for the patients and of the inmates respectively should be improved either you like it or not

thats what i have to say concerning this topic

Spartan King- 12-02-2007
QUOTE (Zeus @ December 02, 2007 07:14 am)
greekturkish/doh.gif

What major issues?
They are criminals. Why should they receive a free holiday in resort style conditions, at the tax payers expense?
They are in jail for a reason. They are there to serve a sentence, their punishment for the crimes they committed. They are not there to have a holiday.


Get that through you thick fucking skull you wanabe philosopher.


There are hospitals, mental institutions, and other state care facilities, which don't have the levels of luxuries seen in those images of prisons above. People who haven't committed any crimes.

How many hospitals in Greece, are in a shocking state? Quite a few. But you, you would rather see criminals in Greece living it up in what resembles a 5 star resort rather then a prison.

Human rights? What has that got to do with the resort style living provided to criminals at tax payers expense? greekturkish/Rolls.gif


Resort style living contributes to the rehabilitation of the scum of society? Yeah, right.
The only thing it contributes to, is sending the message to these scum bags that they can commit crimes on the outside, and the best punishment they will get is a free holiday in prison at someone else's expense.

Prisons do not have to look like dungeons, as the role of imprisonment is not merely to punish the wrongdoer.

Incarceration serves multiple purposes.

-Public Protection
-Deterrence
-Reform of a criminal
-Retributive element


The US has a very intolerant record with regards to its prison system, the situation is terrible, as they use populist techniques and let many prisoners rot in a prison run by gangs, where rape is prevalent and so on, yet the deterrence element is still not working, just check American crime stats and compare them to somewhere like Denmark- a country that allows prisoners partners to visit them for sex.

I'll give you an other example, South African prisons are awful and are completely under the control of gangs, new prisoners are raped within days of bieng put behind bars, and the HIV+ rate amongst male prisoners is around the 90% mark, the result? Criminals now shoot to kill in muggings, shoot at the police and do all they can to get away or avoid capture, as a spell in prison is basically a death sentence.

Ultimately, for a large percentage of the public in most western nations, just the idea of prison is enough of a deterrence to avoid criminal behaviour. However, most crime is committed by re-offenders, people who take the risk of capture no matter the state of prisons. For these people on the edges of society, merely putting them in prison to signal social disapproval will no work. These are people who feel that they have nothing to lose and have no role in normal society, and generally are drug addicts poorly educated and have zero self respect. Prison is a place where people can be rehabilitated, taken off drugs, taught skills, given counselling- things that will make a difference. Of course, this will fail in many examples but that does not mean that we should keep spending money on prisons with a revolving doors policy.

As for the Austrian prison, most of the 'nicer' parts in those photographs are of Court and Prison administration areas and not of the prisoners are at all.

So no matter howpopulist the idea of "let them rot" sounds, it is a very ignorant view to take.

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